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25 Jun 2021 01:00:42
Mavropanos move to Stuttgart looks to be official now - on loan with an obligation to buy if they don't get relegated, and an option to buy if they do. 5m in total with a sell-on clause.

Good luck to him. Never really got a fair shot at Arsenal IMO and I hope he does well.


1.) 25 Jun 2021 09:58:14
Wasn't he one of Sven's findings? I thought he looked decent. Like you say though, wasn't given a fair crack at the first team. But of a shame really.

2.) 25 Jun 2021 14:37:13
He was a Sven signing. Was often injured. Hope he comes good, best of luck to him.



25 May 2021 13:06:42
Ornstein reporting that Buendia and Norwich have mutually agreed that he can move on. Currently the clubs showing the most interest are Arsenal, and Villa who want to play him next to Grealish. Norwich are said to want at least £40m.

Edu and Arteta view him as the preferred option if they can't bring in Odegaard. Ornstein doesn't mention whether we would accept another loan.

We are also apparently prioritising right centre-back, specifically Jules Kounde, but this is unlikely as he will cost around £50 million and is likely to want Champions League football.

Norwich are apparently also willing to let Aarons and Cantwell go for the right price.


1.) 25 May 2021 17:15:19
Rather have him than odergard.

2.) 25 May 2021 21:32:31
I'm not sure Odegaard did enough on loan. Seemed a fairly average player, and we've already got plenty of those!



15 Aug 2020 03:20:38
Interesting news from ESPN today that Arsenal, led by Edu, are doing an internal investigation of the Pepe transfer. I think everyone was shocked by the amount - seems it wasn't just us fans.

Of course, the investigation might be more along the lines of "why did we sign Pepe when we could have signed a Joorabchian client" :' (.


1.) 15 Aug 2020 10:28:39
So Edu is conducting an investigation into the role he and his fellow decision making team handled the Pepe transfer?
I've a feeling they will come out of it covered in roses somehow :-) .
Wow they must be short of stuff to do :-)

2.) 15 Aug 2020 12:43:29
Might be related to Raul leaving. Perhaps he took a cut under the table? Don't want to speculate but it does seem very drastic. Not that I'm shedding any tears, mind you.

3.) 15 Aug 2020 20:27:13
Or perhaps Raul was called back at Barcelona?

4.) 15 Aug 2020 22:45:42
Fair point that desi.



07 Aug 2020 01:23:05
Reports coming out that the Auba contract renewal set to be confirmed in the coming days. Willian announcement to follow.

Never felt so lukewarm about a big signing before. Sigh.


{Ed0666's Note - it really does beggar belief to give Willian $400k a month when you could get a promising kiddie on a fraction of those wages who would probably do the same job. Eds 002’s insights into the financial running at you’re club are fascinating. That Edu seems like he’s doing an awful job. He makes Rick Parry look like Monchi.

1.) 07 Aug 2020 02:59:03
I think this is the main reason why so many of us Arsenal fans are so sick of Kroenke. It's not the lack of spending that's the problem, we
clearly do spend (and badly) . Clubs like Liverpool have shown that if you invest well then you can compete with the best.
It's the way he operates the club, no accountability, no transparency, no soul. We have a bunch of shysters running the club who only care about their own pockets. It's the work of an asset stripper, a mafioso, someone who doesn't care about what the Arsenal has come to represent over the past 30 years and what the fans love about football. Might sound harsh but I do not recognise the club I began supporting decades ago.

{Ed0666's Note - I feel you’re pain mate. Not trying to rub salt into the wounds but at least you had a modicum of accountability and dignity when Mr Wenger was running the show from top to bottom now it seems like you have the lunatics running the asylum. I honestly think you wouldn’t be in this horror show had wenger stayed in some capacity. The way he was hounded out of you’re club still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and Im a Liverpool fan.

2.) 07 Aug 2020 09:56:54
I have to agree - we used to be able to say we were a class act but this move feels rotten whichever way you approach it from.

It also staggers me that they couldn’t find a better spin than ‘it will free up money for transfers’. They could have simply said ‘we are re-structuring our scouting network’.

It doesn’t feel like we have the best minds from what are supposed to be commercially savvy business types as opposed to ‘football people’ in those roles. I think this is where we do miss someone like David Dein, Arsene Wenger, Tony Adams - just someone who cares about the club and how it is represented.

We have no Arsenal DNA. Bad, bad times.

3.) 07 Aug 2020 12:44:25
While I feel sorry for the 55 people, as I understand it our staffing was somewhat bloated so maybe this is sensible. Willian may well prove to be a master stroke. Yes his salary is high but not transfer fee and you have a proven winner in the Premiership. And keeping Auba was a necessity. I am not (and have never really been) a fan of Coutinho so I hope that doesn't happen. Also in all cases I don't want your emerging young players to be kept out. But for years now we have been told we have the best group of youngsters in the land but very few pan out so trying to get the right balance is imperative. For my money, I like where we are going and I believe Arteta is the perfect manager for Arsenal.

4.) 07 Aug 2020 15:11:43
Stats show that in less games Martinelli was far better than Willian. Not sure why we are going for him.

{Ed002's Note - Because of Kia.}

5.) 07 Aug 2020 20:22:24
Is that really what we are offering? 😮 Have we learnt nothing from ozil and sanchez.

6.) 07 Aug 2020 20:32:41
I hope kia doesn't have a load of one direction T shirts or 100s of boxes of old cycling shorts he's stuck with in his garage or our players are going to look really silly taking the field next season.

7.) 07 Aug 2020 19:42:56
@ED0666 - Was that sarcasm with the wages? Cause Willian was at 120K at Chelsea and rumours are of him signing a 100K deal with us.
For the experience it's a fair price. Agree that we should be looking young but - We already have Pepe/ Reiss/ Martinelli/ Saka and don't want to impede their chances maybe. Willian is just an experience backup is my hunch.

If this happens- Reiss might be loaned out in Jan-Feb maybe.

{Ed0666's Note - No Kasvan I wasn’t being sarcastic I’m being deadly serious. Willian was on 120k at Chelsea but they only offered him a year or two year extension you’ve given him 3 years so works out much more in the long term. I really think it’s an absurd transfer I really do as you could have got say an experienced 26 year old on similar wages who still would be in his prime in 3 years. I think what I’m trying to say he’s not worth the outlay especially given you’re financial circumstances.



08 Jan 2019 13:01:14
Weirdly widespread rumours appearing that we're in for Carrasco. Hope not, myself - way too inconsistent - but does seem the kind of thing that someone made up and the other papers just ran with. Personally don't see Pepe moving until the summer, so depends how desperate we are.


1.) 08 Jan 2019 13:35:45
There must be a reason no one wanted him and he ended up playing in china.

2.) 08 Jan 2019 18:36:28
I’d rather Walcott.

3.) 08 Jan 2019 20:26:47
Very good player, who made a money decision and not a footballing one going to China. Top player for athletico scoring some important goals in big games. A lot of big teams were sniffing before he went to China, which was a strange decision and only he new why he did.

4.) 09 Jan 2019 00:17:58
The two clubs are owned by the same organisation Steve. My guess is it was a convenient way to both move on a player Simeone didn't like and transfer some assets to Atleti.

5.) 09 Jan 2019 09:21:19
I’ve watching him play few times and he was full of energy, personally I like him, and I think he could be a good buy. What the eds think of him?

{Ed001's Note - every time I saw him he was abysmal, looked utterly disinterested, though he clearly has a lovely touch and skill, he just has not got the application or intelligence to know how to use it.}

6.) 09 Jan 2019 19:01:28
When he went to China I was disappointed that we were unable to sign him, he looked pretty useful to me.

7.) 09 Jan 2019 19:17:38
It’s a funny thing because every time I saw him play he looked decent. You can get that sometimes.

8.) 09 Jan 2019 22:24:30
Axel Witsel came back from China and is a great Aaser for Dortmund. Why not Carrasco? He is a regular in the Belgias National team. I say go!

9.) 10 Jan 2019 14:50:16
Bring Walcott back he’s faster 🙄.

10.) 10 Jan 2019 20:28:42
Bring back Perry Groves - sure he would come back on a loan 👊.




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20 May 2021 02:49:08
I think we got out of jail a bit in that game. We were absolutely dire in the second half. It was our classic approach of endlessly passing the ball in a big C shape between the wide players and the deep midfielders. I worry that the issue was not as bleedingly obvious to Arteta as it was to everyone else. We never actually put anyone in the box for those cutbacks, Partey and Elneny were about 10 yards behind the passage of play and Auba was having a stinker.

Also, Chambers was our best chance creator. He was fantastic again today.


1.) 20 May 2021 07:46:41
Very true, it was very frustrating to watch, some of chambers work was excellent, he’s certainly improved.



15 May 2021 00:47:20
Hi Eds, any interest in Ritchie from Newcastle? I think he'd be a great back up for Tierney if we didn't use Saka there. Love his enthusiasm.


1.) 15 May 2021 14:03:44
Please, please, please tell me your joking.

2.) 16 May 2021 17:55:32
The old right footed ex bournemouth winger / midfielder? Sign him up.



10 May 2021 01:43:27
I must say despite how disappointing Arteta has been this season, I don't see much commentary on how similarly Carlo Ancelotti has performed. Everton spent an absurd amount over the last couple of seasons but the results haven't come at all. Neither club has come out of the last 9 months looking great.


1.) 10 May 2021 06:53:53
In 18/ 19 they were 16 points behind us
2019/ 20 they were 7 behind us
This season?

2.) 10 May 2021 08:09:36
It's the same with Liverpool and Spurs, 5 years ago they were well behind us too but now both consistently finish above us.

But hey ho, we are merely going through what will be looked back on as our stagnation period which happened to coincide with other clubs progressive years.

It was just us and United for a few years then Chelsea got it together and were followed by City and now a host of clubs have overtaken us as we simply stood still.

3.) 10 May 2021 09:04:44
I don’t see any point in comparing who has spent what, it’s about where we have fallen from and our own expectations, I’m not really bothered what others have spent, that won’t correct our appalling season.

4.) 10 May 2021 09:43:20
Personally I think we have been firing at 7/ 10 for years and for a decade that was enough for 4th or on odd occasions where others did particularly badly 2nd or 3rd.

Our problem is the other clubs refused to stand still and suddenly our 7/ 10 was only good enough for 6th and 5th and now 8th or 9th.

Money simply hasn't and won't fix our problems, only a coach/ manager who can organise motivate and get the players 100% behind him and his methods will get us back on track.

It's pretty obvious some players don't enjoy Arteta and if that was only players who've been at the club years he could simly replace them but when last summers star signings don't flourish under his management then why will this summers signings do so? Partey and Gabriel arrived good players.

5.) 10 May 2021 12:20:18
Realistically where do our ambitions lie?

While Man City and Chelsea can attract the outstanding players/ managers with their owners' millions do we really believe we will ever win the Premiership/ Champions League while their owners are still investing?

I think we should aim for the domestic trophies and to cultivate a wonderful-to-watch game with the aim of getting in the Champions League but not necessarily expecting to win it while we have the business set up we have.

For me, I would like to see beautiful football with players who play for the badge. What I find so disappointing atm is this doesn't seem to be the case with a lot of our guys.

Bring back the pride to play for this great club, Saka and ESR both have it in spades :)

6.) 10 May 2021 13:24:33
I can't remember and can't be bothered to Google it but when Klopp took over Liverpool did they have European football?

Best of my memory in think they finished 8th or something under Rodgers the previous season although it might have been 6th, but wherever they finished they weren't in a good place and they didn't have huge funds available, Klopp got the most out of what he had and sold and bought wisely and season by season improved them until they became European, World and finally premier league champions.

It can be done from where we are now but not with a yes man as manager.

7.) 10 May 2021 15:34:08
what we really need is new owners who share our interest and passion you get rid of Arteta and they will bring in Big Sam, I don't want that i don't think anyone else does either. I never wanted Arteta but once he became manager we have to get behind him he does not have the experience we like but for me he has not done much wrong. And if we don't have cut throat owners who will sack any manager for a wrong decision and replace him with someone better i'm Arteta in and Kronke out.

8.) 10 May 2021 17:05:24
Fair play G4 is all opinions mate.



18 Apr 2021 02:31:04
Win rate with ESR and Saka this season in the league: 77%. Win rate with neither: 36%. Some sampling bias there perhaps but blimey.


1.) 18 Apr 2021 10:14:12
When ERS was introduced things picked up, without him we just weren't creating anything at all and fans were calling for Ozil to be reintroduced as we were awful and 16th in thr League.

People don't like it being mentioned I know, but we seldom lose when Gabriel isn't playing but struggle when he's in the side, I don't understand why as Gabriel is a decent player but if you check out results with and without him then without him Arsenal do better, it's a mystery but it's also reality.

2.) 18 Apr 2021 10:35:30
That is a weird stat G62 because he is a good player. Maybe it’s because when he doesn’t play it’s because he is replaced by a better player, or at least by a defensive pair who are working well together? Holding and Mari have looked good in recent games, whereas I am pretty sure Gabriel has been dropped in to play alongside all the other center half’s, but especially with Luis. IMO Players need to be given a decent run rather than dropped in and out at the managers whim.

3.) 18 Apr 2021 11:25:34
I love a settled side Epping mate, play your best 11 and create competition to get a game is my phylosthy
Tinker tinker little Ar leaves everyone asking who you are 🖒😆.

4.) 18 Apr 2021 16:24:25
100% G62, a player should fight for being number 1 in his position, and once earned should keep it unless someone both looks better and is putting in more effort. It’s called competition, and it can be a healthy thing. We go down the other route though, in that some players like Xhaka can put in years of poor performances but still get picked, whereas others, like Holding, have to be 100% perfect otherwise they seem to get dropped.



11 Mar 2021 22:34:00
Brilliant result away, really pleased for Odegaard especially after that shocker early on.

Have to say though, nearly every shot we conceded we gave away badly ourselves. No point defending heroically for 90 minutes because all it takes is one stupid hospital pass before you've given up a goal.

Leno needs to learn from Ederson and see the passes that won't put us under pressure. Put it wide to Tierney or Bellerin rather than straight to our CDM, at least you won't give them a straight shot on an empty net like this last two games. Arteta needs to fix this ASAP.


1.) 11 Mar 2021 22:51:03
I don't mind playing out from the back using the wings but please, not in front of goal. Leno looks petrified when this happens.

2.) 12 Mar 2021 09:56:32
I don't understand why leno does it. I'm sure arteta says play it out from the back however surely common sense prevails and you clear it when there's no options.

3.) 12 Mar 2021 21:12:46
The only way it will stop is if the players doing it are dropped the next game. Dani C was dropped after the Benfica game and I think Leno needs the same treatment. These silly mistakes are not Artetas fault, but allowing a no responsibility culture to develop is his fault.

4.) 13 Mar 2021 17:29:42
Is it a bit different for keepers though Epping? If their confidence goes its a disaster, so would dropping Leno now cause more problems do you think?




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31 Jul 2021 10:50:58
Yeah fair point Glenn, we have half a team to shift. I can't see Elneny having any offers.




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30 Jul 2021 22:12:02
Yep I'd rather he stayed if that's all they were offering, because we are unlikely to find a good replacement for 12m. Sambi and Partey can't play every game, we need the depth.

Thing is though D16 I doubt you'd find anyone willing to give us £12m for Elneny 😂.




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22 Jul 2021 03:24:51
I'm surprised Villa aren't after him. Played for them before, fits their style, good backup for Watkins. If we sign him and drop Balogun and Gabi I will be fuming.




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16 Jul 2021 00:16:41
Reminds me a little of Welbeck. What do you think his level is Ed? Mid-table-ish?


{Ed002's Note - Ideal for Arsenal then.}



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13 Jul 2021 12:12:35
Great stuff ed002 and totally agree Muska. Saka stepped up when there were plenty of players ahead of him backing off. He was the main reason I kept tuning in last season.





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02 Aug 2021 22:47:01
All I ask for Bronze is that we see a young, hungry team out there every week who can play some nice football. To that end, I've really liked what I've seen from our signings so far and from our local lads like ESR, Saka and Willock.

We do that, and I'll be happy. Putting up consistent results takes time, but the green shoots of progress is all I need. If we can't enjoy football on a game-by-game basis, why are we bothering with it in the first place?




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01 Aug 2021 23:12:56
Yeah frankly if you're looking at pre-season like it's supposed to mean anything, you're wasting your time. It's a nice chance to see some of our squad in action with no pressure and that's about it.

That said, we really need to learn when to sell players like Hector when their value is high rather than waiting for them to crater out. Can't imagine anyone is interested in him now after 2 seasons of playing like cack.




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31 Jul 2021 10:57:25
First time seeing those messages Ed001. I'm fuming. Hope they never kick a football again.


{Ed001's Note - I thought it needed to be shown now they have been sacked, so it could be seen. What they did was disgusting.}



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30 Jul 2021 22:14:59
Move Elneny on. If we keep Xhaka it's not the end of the world. Promote Azeez for depth. Partey, Xhaka, Sambi, Azeez, plus we will probably be left with one or more of Willock, Maitland-Niles and Torreira the way this summer is going sales-wise.




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28 Jul 2021 00:12:29
Yep Ed014 there is certainly a player in there. But is his mind in it? I'm not sure.

Sally absolutely - just seeing Auba's struggles with family tragedy shows that nobody gets paid enough to watch their mother nearly die.