30 Aug 2021 10:18:00
Just been reading some of your posts and I can honestly say I feel your pain. From the days of Hodgson saying we weren't too big for a relegation battle to where we are now is like chalk and cheese. But you get through it and the highs are even better because you see what it can be like at the lowest point.

You have some very good young players but appear to have problems from the top down. Get the top of the club right and it'll filter down to results on the pitch.

As for your manager, well, he's learnt off pep so he must be good! In all seriousness until the club sorts put the key decision makers you could have any manager in and they'd find it tough.

Hopefully your fortunes turn soon as the league would be better with a stronger arsenal team.

1.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 10:22:53
WYred, Top post mate. It is when the other fans start pitying you is when you realise you are in some deep deep shiz. There are so many things wrong with the club. We can only start from the very top.

2.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 10:25:43
Appreciated WY, unfortunately it’s the very top that’s the problem until they go this going to be a long long struggle ending with the ultimate pain …………. relegation.

3.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 11:35:41
There is no Chance this club gets relegated. Get a grip for gods sake. Lost to Brentford, chelsea and man city. Fact is, no manager could make this team play any better. Apart from the young players no one else gives a sh*t. Until the older players like Aubameyang, Xhaka, Mari, leno for example leave, the fortune of this club won't change. That would fix one part of the problem, the board is a whole different thing. There won't be success at Arsenal until they sell up and someone else steps in. We are horrible to watch, terrible all over the pitch. I blame Wenger for spoiling us with that beautiful style of play.

4.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 12:02:28
We could get relegated mate never say never.

5.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 12:26:08
McCain, why do the players at Arsenal not give a shoot but the players at Chelsea City United Leicester West Ham and plenty of others do mate?

Knuckle down and accept the players at Arsenal are and have been poorly motivated and managed and didn't suddenly decide to simply not feel good about thier job.

I'm beginning to wonder if you own a private jet and have an apparent in Monaco McCain 😎😀😁😂😆😯.

6.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 13:01:11
G62 Its the players who perform. They're the ones who don't put a shift in. Remember Emery? The players got him the sack. We were all crying for him to go and we got our wish.

Didn't help anything though did it? Its the same players. And the ones Arteta has brought in, we are all praising when they play. i'm not saying Arteta is the answer, my point is, these players have shown they can play terribly and the fault falls on the manager.

How many more times are we going to keep blaming the manager before we all start aiming it at the players?

{Ed014's Note - no one gets out of this mess without blame McCain, Arteta has snags with a variety of players and he’s done nothing to resolve any of those issues.

The players themselves have also been shocking, who outside Tierney, Saka, ESR, Martinelli and maybe Holding looks like they give a toss?

7.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 13:14:43
That's my point Ed. These players have shown they can just down tools as the blame falls at the feet of the guy who picks the team.

We get rid of Arteta, these same players will resort to type again as soon as the next manager makes a decision they aren't fond of.

{Ed014's Note - I get that McCain but as a player you have to have a belief in a managers style of play and training and I’m sure you’d agree on both counts, what style of play did Emery have and what’s Arteta’s.

It was interesting listening to Alan Smith talking about Arteta’s training methods this morning and also what Ed02 has alluded to about both that and Arteta’s coaches.

Can you imagine players downing tools for Pep or Jurgen, you never see Burnley players downing tools.

As manager he should be capable of getting a tune out of the players available and not alienating the likes of Saliba, Guendouzi and Torriera

8.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 13:16:31
You really think that McCain? Rather arrogant I’d say, why do you think we are too good? One think is for sure the gap between us snd the elite has grown and the gap between us and the bottom 7 is closing

Don’t be too cock sure, history of the club means nothing.

9.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 13:37:35
100% Ed. Like i said, i'm not saying Arteta is the right man but at the minute he is out only man. No one out there that can do much better that would want to join.

Conte would never happen as our board wouldn't go for someone like that. I would much rather let Arteta get rid of the players he doesn't want and bring in his own. 2 years in a job is nothing. I might be the minority but i want to give him this season.

Ox mate, you genuinely can't believe this squad would get relegated? Thing are bad at the minute but no way can you honestly believe this squad goes in to the championship? I would bet my house on Arsenal staying up.

{Ed014's Note - I’m can’t argue with how unattractive we are due to our pathetic set up above Arteta but I’m certain someone like Graham Potter or Sean Dyche who’d take the job in a heart beat would do better than Arteta.

You see coaches changing teams for the better in short order all the time and I’ll cite Tuchel as an immediate example but Arteta has been here for way longer and tell me in all honesty what has changed, because I’m saying nothing if we’re not actually worse!

As for relegation I would definitely not bet my house on it.

10.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 13:58:59
I totally agree Banbury mate, pride comes before a fall and those who are arrogant enough to think they are beyond some stations simply by virtue of who they are tend to find themselves havubg the rudest of awakenings

If anyone had predicted before the Brentford game that we'd be bottom of the league not having scored a single goal and conceded 9 after our first 3 games they'd have been accused of being over dramatically negative and laughed off this page, yet here we are!

11.) 30 Aug 2021
30 Aug 2021 16:45:55
Honestly, I still don't think we will get relegated, but it's just the thought or fear of it that is real.

I wasn't expecting us to conceded 9 in 3 games without scoring. Maybe conceding 4 and scoring 2 as we won't score a lot and can't see it changing. So i'm expecting the defence and midfield to get better.

As for EPL managers names being mention that could make us better, what happen to Chris Wilder and Ralph Hasenhüttl whose names were being branded out a season back why aren't they still being managed here? No one mentioned Martinez I thought he was good enough before he went to Belgium. Although not available before the World Cup.

Am I really the only one on here who think ESR is not good enough. He should have been sold to Aston Villa and manage the fallout thereafter. Extending his contract to me is appease the fans and a youth player maybe to sweeten others coming through. How many times have we been bitten in past with these loyalty contract? I though we had screamed at these in the Wenger era.